Hi Rick, no doubt you guys have your hands full, though it appears that Kate Mulgrew is distancing herself from the film claiming she was tricked into working on the project.
Both Krauss and she are claiming they had no idea what they were working on. Any merit to this? Or is there something else going on? I guess this is where things are really heating up as more places are becoming aware of the film and join the attack?
You just been hijacked on youtube - suddenly you have a bunch of new visitors for The Principle trailer , lots of un-likes and lots of zoo comments. Too bad.
I see no reason to constantly try to pick fights with people, and trying to provoke them. I don;t understand why you keep trying to stir some kind of trouble with people who disagree with you? I happen to believe that most of modern theoretical science is one big deception with barely a smidget of science in it, but don't see much point in picking gratuitous fights. One can argue in a factual and non confrontational manner, and this way avoid to stir up egocentric defense mechanisms which tend to close people up to receiving pertinent information for the fear of being made foolish. I hope you don't take my comment in the wrong light.
I join with Rick in thanking you for "all your support." With Rick's permission (if he allows this post), I must go on record, however, in strongly disagreeing with much of what you say. I think you have most unfortunately painted an erroneous picture of Rick.
I have followed many of Rick's comments on various blog sites over the years. I would have to say that I have found his responses to people to be by and large extremely courteous and professional, not to mention very informative and well balanced. This doesn't mean that he has to be a shrinking wall flower (any less than the good Lord Jesus Christ was when He was subject to attempted manipulation and even vicious and calumnious attacks). True humility does not require one to suppress the truth so as not to offend those who would twist or deny that truth.
One has a right to defend his good name and the truth and sometimes this may entail some powerful, but quite justified fighting tactics. We need look no further than the Good Lord to see how He employed such means. Obviously, there may be a strong price to pay for one who dares to question the status quo as well as fight to defend one's own good name and the truth, however. For those who are willing to pay that price, I should add!
I have found Rick to be unbelievably patient with a great many people in trying to educate them on a lot of scientific principles (basic to advanced) and application of same. I have seen him endure an incredible amount of ignorant and even downright extremely vile and hateful abuse by countless individuals. In my opinion I would have to say it is charity -- true Christian charity which is his principal guiding principle as he has responded to so much abuse on the Internet over the years.
I don't believe for one minute that Rick is guilty of in your words "picking gratuitous fights." The opposition has been doing all it can to bait Rick and Robert Sungenis often in the most slanderous and hateful ways. Their response to all this -- all things considered -- has actually been rather restrained!
Your advice to Rick about arguing in a "factual and non confrontational manner" may be well intentioned, but please realize that you can never please all people in this world. (I think you know that!) If you are bound to stand up for the truth you are bound to make enemies. There is no way to avoid that regardless of how "factual and non confrontational" you may wish to appear.
Even Christ could not convert some people to the truth/Truth -- people who he performed miracles in front of! We must accept the fact that some people -- no matter what we do -- will simply not allow themselves to be open to a consideration of things which may threaten their comfort zone or whatever. (Never discount the power of cognitive dissonance.) Period! Knowing that we can simply move on. We can hope and pray (as well we should) that people will see the light, but at the end of the day we must simply accept the fact that some -- for whatever reason -- may not.
VelikaBuna, maybe Krauss has in the past picked a few fights with them.
Krauss did not respond himself as far as I saw, but one unknown (to me at least) gave this:
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Drew Daudelin@drewdaudelin·18 h @delano_rick Giving attention to an actual scientist who says your film is nonsense will only do more damage than you've done. Good luck!
Mr. Lundhal I am sure they have picked fights and are extremely full of themselves and obnoxious. All I am saying is that it is not useful to act like them. Their time will come when they will be exposed as something completely opposite of what they think they are. They make arrogant statements because they speak from 'authority" and are intolerant of anyone questioning their knowledge. They are acting like little children. I think they should be ignored and the project needs to move forward. The suppressed evidence needs to be made known. Let them rant all they want. If they are right then they will be able to show it, but if they are wrong they will just rant and sane people who care about the truth will see them for what they are.
Hi Rick, no doubt you guys have your hands full, though it appears that Kate Mulgrew is distancing herself from the film claiming she was tricked into working on the project.
ReplyDeleteBoth Krauss and she are claiming they had no idea what they were working on. Any merit to this? Or is there something else going on? I guess this is where things are really heating up as more places are becoming aware of the film and join the attack?
My statement is up.
DeleteI trust the truth is obvious to the logical.
Poor Kate.
Can you imagine, saying you didm;t know what a film was about, when you have recorded the bloody script?
Poor Kate.
Not her finest hour.
You just been hijacked on youtube - suddenly you have a bunch of new visitors for The Principle trailer , lots of un-likes and lots of zoo comments. Too bad.
ReplyDeleteTo the contrary, great and good and wonderful news!
DeleteThey have given me literally tens of millions of dollars of free promotion.
I am greatly in their debt, and will make sure to correctly acknowledge them in all that follows.
Mr. Delano
ReplyDeleteI see no reason to constantly try to pick fights with people, and trying to provoke them. I don;t understand why you keep trying to stir some kind of trouble with people who disagree with you? I happen to believe that most of modern theoretical science is one big deception with barely a smidget of science in it, but don't see much point in picking gratuitous fights. One can argue in a factual and non confrontational manner, and this way avoid to stir up egocentric defense mechanisms which tend to close people up to receiving pertinent information for the fear of being made foolish. I hope you don't take my comment in the wrong light.
Velika:
DeleteYour message puts me in mind of Psalm 31, 12-15.
Thanks so much for your all your support.
Velika,
DeleteI join with Rick in thanking you for "all your support." With Rick's permission (if he allows this post), I must go on record, however, in strongly disagreeing with much of what you say. I think you have most unfortunately painted an erroneous picture of Rick.
I have followed many of Rick's comments on various blog sites over the years. I would have to say that I have found his responses to people to be by and large extremely courteous and professional, not to mention very informative and well balanced. This doesn't mean that he has to be a shrinking wall flower (any less than the good Lord Jesus Christ was when He was subject to attempted manipulation and even vicious and calumnious attacks). True humility does not require one to suppress the truth so as not to offend those who would twist or deny that truth.
One has a right to defend his good name and the truth and sometimes this may entail some powerful, but quite justified fighting tactics. We need look no further than the Good Lord to see how He employed such means. Obviously, there may be a strong price to pay for one who dares to question the status quo as well as fight to defend one's own good name and the truth, however. For those who are willing to pay that price, I should add!
I have found Rick to be unbelievably patient with a great many people in trying to educate them on a lot of scientific principles (basic to advanced) and application of same. I have seen him endure an incredible amount of ignorant and even downright extremely vile and hateful abuse by countless individuals. In my opinion I would have to say it is charity -- true Christian charity which is his principal guiding principle as he has responded to so much abuse on the Internet over the years.
I don't believe for one minute that Rick is guilty of in your words "picking gratuitous fights." The opposition has been doing all it can to bait Rick and Robert Sungenis often in the most slanderous and hateful ways. Their response to all this -- all things considered -- has actually been rather restrained!
Your advice to Rick about arguing in a "factual and non confrontational manner" may be well intentioned, but please realize that you can never please all people in this world. (I think you know that!) If you are bound to stand up for the truth you are bound to make enemies. There is no way to avoid that regardless of how "factual and non confrontational" you may wish to appear.
Even Christ could not convert some people to the truth/Truth -- people who he performed miracles in front of! We must accept the fact that some people -- no matter what we do -- will simply not allow themselves to be open to a consideration of things which may threaten their comfort zone or whatever. (Never discount the power of cognitive dissonance.) Period! Knowing that we can simply move on. We can hope and pray (as well we should) that people will see the light, but at the end of the day we must simply accept the fact that some -- for whatever reason -- may not.
VelikaBuna, maybe Krauss has in the past picked a few fights with them.
ReplyDeleteKrauss did not respond himself as far as I saw, but one unknown (to me at least) gave this:
Drew Daudelin@drewdaudelin·18 h
@delano_rick No, it's going to be really, really boring, and in a few weeks no one will remember your film existed.
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@delano_rick Don't convince yourself that the scientific community owes you equal time. Or that anyone scorning you is "afraid."
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@delano_rick Giving attention to an actual scientist who says your film is nonsense will only do more damage than you've done. Good luck!
Drew:
DeleteThe opposition has given me a priceless treaure.
They have taken out a cannon to shoot a flea.
Or else, perhaps more accurately, they have finally figured out that this is much more than a flea.
As for Krauss, he is certainly spouting nonsense, see my statement here:
http://magisterialfundies.blogspot.com/2014/04/statement-of-producer-of-principle.html
Mr. Lundhal
ReplyDeleteI am sure they have picked fights and are extremely full of themselves and obnoxious. All I am saying is that it is not useful to act like them. Their time will come when they will be exposed as something completely opposite of what they think they are. They make arrogant statements because they speak from 'authority" and are intolerant of anyone questioning their knowledge. They are acting like little children. I think they should be ignored and the project needs to move forward. The suppressed evidence needs to be made known. Let them rant all they want. If they are right then they will be able to show it, but if they are wrong they will just rant and sane people who care about the truth will see them for what they are.