"The Principle" Live On Michael Voris' "Mic'd Up", Wednesday January 8, 8PM Eastern

We will be showing some clips from "The Principle", talking about the release plans, and taking questions via Twitter and email.

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Lawrence Krauss Goes Silent On Twitter, Won't Answer the Question......

See here for Part One.

Well, on strictly empirical grounds, we have a situation where Lawrence Krauss has alleged "The Principle" to be nonsense.

On examination, it turns out he has never seen it; he advances this on the basis of a trailer.

On further examination, he advances this on the basis that he was "used to sell something he does not believe in".

I think we can reasonably, if provisionally, conclude he is referring to the views of others in the film, particularly concerning the existence of God, with which views Dr. Krauss manifestly does not agree.

Obviously, I could give a hoot whether he is offended that we would include other viewpoints.

He doesn't get to edit our film, just interview for it.

There is another, more interesting possibility however, and were I a betting man, I should not neglect to keep this one in mind as the story develops.

Dr. Krauss is on public record concerning the implications of the CMB Axis.

We, probably alone among all documentary projects, actually interviewed him concerning these statements.

He perhaps might recall his answers, and, in light of Planck's results, find himself in a position not unlike that of a politician who, unable to retrieve the footage, is left with the option of attempting to discredit the source.

We'll see ;-)

One of the good things about "The Principle" is that we retain 35 hours of unedited raw footage of all of the interviews, and transcripts, and we are very prepared to respond to any and all allegations of impropriety or selective editing.

Boy howdy are we prepared.

I keep telling people: "The Principle" is the one movie you absolutely must see THIS year!

Lawrence Krauss Tweets A Pre-Cognitive Review of "The Principle"

https://twitter.com/LKrauss1/statuses/413110311160266752

I rather enjoy the irony of being told that my film is "nonsense", by a man who has not only never seen it, but who just wrote a book about how everything comes from nothing that is really something.

But I do very much appreciate Lawrence Krauss' contribution to our film. It is a hum dinger, regardless of whether one agrees with him or not.

UPDATE: Lawrence has responded, and I have asked him a very simple question.


I encourage everyone to go and have a look at the trailer.

Lawrence, it seems to me your views were quite accurately presented. 

Of course, if your objection boils down to us declining to only present views which agree with yours, well that's a bit of a problem, since there are, after all, other contributors whose views do not necessarily agree with yours.

They get to speak for themselves too.

What Is "The Principle"?

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Five hundred years ago, you were crazy if you thought the Earth was going around the Sun.

Today, you’re crazy if you think it isn’t.

What changed?

That turns out to be a fascinating question, one which involves profound issues of science, of faith, of identity.

While most people assume that it has long since been experimentally proven that the Earth is orbiting the Sun, a simple challenge to name the specific experiment which measured that motion will yield an easily-won bar bet (at least until “The Principle” is released!).

It may come as a surprise to some, but no such experimental proof has ever been obtained.

Remarkably, physics had to be entirely re-conceptualized by Albert Einstein at the beginning of the 20th century; in part because no experiment had been able to directly measure this universally-assumed motion of Earth around Sun.

So, two of our greatest scientific revolutions- the Copernican Revolution and Relativity- are intimately associated with this question of Earth’s place in the larger scheme of things.

The Copernican Principle simply states that Earth is not in any special or central location in the cosmos. It is generalized, in modern cosmology, as the “cosmological principle”; there are no special locations in the cosmos. Under this fundamental assumption, on large enough scales, the universe will look pretty much the same everywhere, and it will look pretty much the same everywhere no matter where you might be looking from.

If this principle is wrong, then everything we think we know about our universe is wrong.

“The Principle” includes interviews with several leading discoverers and theorists wrestling with the implications of recently obtained observational evidence that this foundational assumption of our scientific world view may be wrong, and that our Earth may be very special after all.

Could this question, which has already launched two great scientific revolutions, be coming back around to haunt us yet again?

If we consider the dramatic changes in culture and world-view which accompanied these earlier revolutions, it is not too early to begin to consider........what would it mean for our future, and the future of our children, if it were to be established that the Earth is in a special position in the cosmos; that we are, truly, in some sense, the “center of the universe”?

Paper Trails............

Mr. Shea alludes to "paper trails" in his article.

It really would not have occurred to me to treat an intellectual debate as if it were a KGB matter for investigation against enemies of the State.

But since Mr. Shea has suggested that he and Mr. Palm have embarked upon this approach........

Let me say that we have discovered some very interesting paper trails ourselves ;-)

Stay tuned.

Response to a Scientist Inquiring About "The Principle"

I reproduce below a portion of an exchange with a scientist posting on a private list about "The Principle", in order to correctly situate the intention and content of our film:

Mr. P----------:

I want to be careful to distinguish my personal affirmation of geocentrism as the correct view of the cosmos, from the message of "The Principle".

"The Principle" is simply, so far as I can tell, the very first full-length documentary treatment of the history, development, scientific and theological impact of, and present-day observational challenges to, the Copernican Principle.

It surprises me a great deal that no one had ever undertaken this before, but then again, there are certain things we just assume are so obvious, that we cease to even look at them.

For Newton, this was absolute space.

For us, it is the Copernican Principle.

There are many viewpoints in the film which are non-Copernican, and also non-geocentric; Ron Hatch for one, John Hartnett for another.

There is a firmly atheist Copernican in the film who concludes that the Earth is incredibly special; in fact the only place in the entire universe with intelligent life- but he arrives at this conclusion via rigorous adherence to the Copernican Principle, in its logical conclusion to a multiverse (Max Tegmark).

In short, the actual content of the film is not nearly as controversial, or threatening to any particular coalition of thinkers, as your concerns above might indicate.

Simply put, "The Principle" is not a film designed to convince anyone that geocentrism is necessarily shown to be true based on existing observations.

It is, however, quite clear about establishing that no experiment has ever shown the Earth to be in motion, and Relativity is brought into the world, in part, as a means of explaining that fact.

Geocentrism is treated both in its historical aspects (indispensible, after all, to the treatment of our subject) and in its modern re-appearance, as an hypothesis which demands considerably more respect than it will be given until it takes off its gloves and bloodies a few noses. Which it has, and will.

I regret not having had the chance to discuss this with you in the conference, but please feel free to contact me at any point along the way should you find the film, or geocentrism, to raise a question or observation in your mind.

Response to Mark Shea on "The Principle"

UPDATE 12/18:

Mark has deleted my response from his blog.

I reproduce it below.

In any event, "The Principle" on Michael Voris' "Mic'd Up", January 8, 2014, at 8PM Eastern time, just became the must-see show of the New Year in the Catholic blogosphere ;-)

Pull up a chair and pop some popcorn.

You DO NOT want to miss this one!

Dear Mark:

I am the Producer of "The Principle".

I wish to inform you that Stellar Motion Pictures, LLC, and our legal counsel, are in possession of full, standard releases, signed by all participants in our film.

The text of these releases make it quite clear that "The Principle" involves an examination of the Copernican Principle, including mainstream and non-mainstream views, including controversial views.

Your insinuations to the contrary are malicious. I will leave it to our counsel to determine whether they are in fact libelous.

Be advised.

Your (telepathically obtained?) alleged "knowledge" of the content of "The Principle" will be adequately debunked by the film itself, which includes interviews with a wide-ranging group of theorists, discoverers, and, yes, dissidents and mavericks who challenge the Copernican Principle, upon which all of our cosmology is predicated, and which, as the intellectually fearless will see, is now under serious observational challenge.

I know better than to expect you to be ashamed of yourself for your continued, vicious campaign against Bob Sungenis.

But as for your false and malicious insinuations about "The Principle"?

I do anticipate that you will experience true regret for these.